Ep 13 - A Premier in Nowhere with Mariella

Ep 13 - A Premier in Nowhere with Mariella
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Ep 13 - A Premier in Nowhere with Mariella

Sep 30 2025 | 01:09:51

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Episode 11 September 30, 2025 01:09:51

Hosted By

Laura Beth Buchleiter Cynthia Vacca Davis

Show Notes

Cynthia and Laura Beth are joined once again by Rachel Hall, aka Mariela for the premiere of her her brand new album, Underglow.

Chapters

  • (00:00:14) - Coming soon: Somewhere Special
  • (00:00:28) - Rachel Hall Returns as a Repeat Guest
  • (00:01:01) - Talking To Cynthia on Her New Album
  • (00:01:52) - Mariella's New Album The Underglow
  • (00:03:43) - The Underglow
  • (00:10:13) - On Fall In Love Again and The Album
  • (00:14:01) - The Importance of Female Friendships
  • (00:17:56) - San Diego's LGBT Music Community
  • (00:22:57) - Panic at the Disco on The Music
  • (00:26:17) - Raspberry Management: A Queer Women's Music Collective
  • (00:29:08) - Never Fall In Love Again
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:14] Speaker A: Oh, boy. [00:00:18] Speaker B: Well, welcome back to. [00:00:21] Speaker C: Nowhere. [00:00:22] Speaker B: But once again, it kind of feels like somewhere special. [00:00:25] Speaker A: It sure does. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Really special. We are are back. This actually is momentous. Momentous. Is that the word I was looking for? [00:00:35] Speaker A: It's a momentous occasion. [00:00:36] Speaker B: It's a momentous occasion because it's the first time we have had somebody come back a repeat. [00:00:41] Speaker A: A repeat guest. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Repeat guest. [00:00:44] Speaker A: A true friend of the podcast. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:47] Speaker C: And. [00:00:49] Speaker B: Very, very excited to get to talk to Rachel about this new album. [00:00:55] Speaker A: Is Rachel hall, remember from a couple episodes ago. [00:01:01] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, I want to talk about this new album. Some of the tracks, your work there in San Diego, which sounds so exciting and. [00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. So we've been chatting a little bit. [00:01:16] Speaker C: Pre recording. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Well, for Cynthia and I, it was pre recording. Rachel thought that we were recording and. [00:01:24] Speaker A: She was giving all these very polished responses to our. [00:01:29] Speaker B: Just like hitting it. Hitting it. Right. [00:01:33] Speaker C: You never know when it's going and when it's not. [00:01:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Professional. [00:01:37] Speaker C: Always. [00:01:38] Speaker B: She really, really was. And, and I'm going to run for. [00:01:42] Speaker C: Office one day, so I can't take any chances. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah, that ship, that ship sailed a long time ago for me. So. Great. So, yeah, first things first. This, this new album dropping October 10, 2025. In case you're listening to this in 2026 sometime October 10, 2025, the name of the album is the Underglow. Is that right? [00:02:12] Speaker C: That's right. Yeah. The Underglow. It's my first full length album. I'm very excited. [00:02:17] Speaker A: Yay. And I understand, I understand that it's. You've got a mix of new never released and also some tracks that have already been around for a little while. [00:02:29] Speaker C: Yeah. So I've kind of sprinkled a few releases over the past couple years as I've kind of been working through this chapter and wanting to kind of share updates as I go. And I find with albums you like, you don't always know you're making an album until you look back and realize you've made an album. So there, there is a handful of new songs on it and even one song that true, like Mariella fans will know from like the very beginning. But it's been unavailable for like the last six years maybe, but it's made a surprise resurgence and I, I re recorded and changed a lot of things to kind of make it match where I'm at now. So some, some new stuff and some really old stuff. Oh, that's great. [00:03:22] Speaker B: So the song, I think Mariah, that we actually featured a little bit on the. Your first time Here with us is going to be on the album. Right. [00:03:29] Speaker A: And anybody that's new, like, just finding us now go back. Like, what, two more. Two episodes? I. I think two, three episodes and something like that. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:38] Speaker A: You'll be up to speed. [00:03:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, just go on back. So talk about the Underglow. What's that? Is a track on the album, but just give us. Give us kind of an idea of that title. And you also mentioned this chapter, so tell us a little bit. Just what is this chapter that has kind of defined this album for you? [00:04:01] Speaker C: Yeah, you know, the Underglow came again, came about in a very organic way. I. I don't feel like I can really sit down with, like, a specific goal in mind and make it happen. I feel like I kind of step backwards into most creative endeavors. But a friend of mine rented a cabin in Chattanooga and had some of the guys that I used to play with back when I lived in Nashville. We all got together and just set up a bunch of recording stuff and all our instruments and just kind of started making stuff and no real aim in mind for. For what we were doing. And it was a really interesting experience for me as a trans woman to, like, kind of be back hanging out with the boys and feel some of the. Some of the discomfort from, like, the ways that I've changed. Not that. I mean, my friends are wonderful and were, like, so supportive through. Through my transition and yet feeling how, like, different that experience was going back to, you know, this group of guys that I used to hang out with where it's, like, now there are no guys I hang out with ever. It's just not a thing I do. [00:05:22] Speaker A: I mean, fair. [00:05:23] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, being, like, the, like, one woman in a cabin full of guys and also having that, like, sort of, like, odd legacy in history between us was. Yeah, it was a really, like, profound experience and just, like, further cemented me in, like, who I am and, like, how right it feels to be me now versus being me. Then, like, I didn't feel like, oh, I just kind of, you know, slipped back into the old patterns. I was like, oh, no, this is uncomfortable. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Wow. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Interesting. Yeah. [00:06:00] Speaker C: Wow. Did it. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Did it. Did it feel weird in a good way overall or just a weird, weird. [00:06:08] Speaker C: Way all the way through, you know? That's a great question. I mean, I do. I do find some, like, weird experiences to be, like, somewhat affirming from time to time. Like, I had a job last year where, like, the, like, CEO was just, like, so misogynistic and just, like, wouldn't listen to me at all. And, like, every idea that I presented, he had to, like, run by his, like, tech buddy that didn't even, like, work for our company. And I found that so affirming. I loved it. Kevin, if you're listening, just keep being a chauvinist asshole, because I felt great every time. Kevin. Yeah. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Yeah. I completely get Richard. [00:06:52] Speaker C: Yeah, it's relatable, right? [00:06:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. And it's. I mean, I still kind of want to throat punch the guy. And also, there's a. There's an element of being seen. [00:07:05] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Yeah. And, you know, obviously, like, the guys I was at the cabin with, like, were wonderful. And, you know, it wasn't anything like that, but it was like, you know, the cabin had, like, one private bedroom, and then the rest of the beds were, like, in this, like, open air loft section. It was like, of course, like, Rachel's gonna, like, take the. The bedroom. And it's like. Yeah, she is. Yes, she is. [00:07:34] Speaker B: That's great. Yeah. [00:07:36] Speaker C: But, yeah, so we ended up just, like, making two tracks instrumental, just, like, goofing off. And when I got back home to San Diego, I started writing over one of them, and that's what became the Underglow. And it was kind of me thinking about, like, a little bit. A little bit more like the bisexual experience, which I'm not bisexual, but the, like, feeling drawn to someone and, like, the uncertainty and the fear that comes with that, that I think a lot of, like, bisexual people feel and, like, that resistance and. And kind of how I related to just, like, my own flirting with my gender identity and that draw to be pulled into something that I, like, wasn't totally ready for or comfortable with. And. And so the song is about kind of having that experience in, like, a club setting. And it's, like, pretty sexual, and it talks about. It opens with if heaven's far away. I don't. I don't know if I want to go. Like, this idea of heaven being this, you know, mystical place in the sky, it says, but you could lead me away deep down to the underglow. And that just. I don't know. Like, when I think of the underglow, I think of hell, but, like, the hell that I want to be in, not, like, as, like, an alternative to the heaven I was raised to, like, feel a pressure to get to. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, just the play on the word just conjures up so many images for me, and I haven't heard the track yet, but it is kind of that it's under an underworld and under dog and under. I mean, all of the things that we think of when you think under, but not the hellfire. It's a glow. [00:09:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:43] Speaker A: It sounds inviting. [00:09:45] Speaker B: It really does. Yeah, it really does. And it's not. It may not be the heaven we grew up with either, but it's not the hell we grew up with either. [00:09:54] Speaker C: Absolutely not. Yeah. I mean, hell is not the right term for it in any capacity other than, like, it's not the heaven we grew up with. [00:10:04] Speaker B: It's. [00:10:04] Speaker C: It's the hell they warned us about. I mean, I really do think about the life I'm living and I'm like, oh, my God, this. This is everything they warned me about. [00:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:11] Speaker C: And I love it so much. [00:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I wish I had embraced that slippery slope a lot sooner. [00:10:17] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:10:20] Speaker B: The. And so this. The album is kind of that whole. This whole chapter then of that transition era and embracing the awkward feeling of enjoying misogyny because of. Not because misogyny is good, don't get us wrong with that one, but because it is. It means people are seeing us as women and mistreating us just like they have mistreated women their entire lives. So, yeah, the irony there. But this. This season of your life, how else is the album capturing? [00:11:03] Speaker C: Well, I mean, it really. It tells the whole story. There's another track that's currently unreleased. It's called Don't Pretend. And the pre chorus just says, don't pretend you miss me. We both know you really don't. And it is just kind of the first song that I really wrote, capturing my divorce and just kind of the ambivalence with which my ex wife just kind of cast me off and our whole marriage. And it's just telling the story of, like, the. The chorus says, occam's razor slicing me in two. And it's that idea of Occam's razor that, like, the most likely explanation is probably correct. Right. And for so long I could try to come up with every justification for, how could she do this? Why would she do this? And the most likely answer is she just didn't care. Like, she didn't like me that much. And yeah, so Occam's razor slicing me into pieces of a life before and after losing you. And yeah, so I talk about that therapist said, obviously, is like the like, story of, like, the moment that we. That we separated. And then, you know, the opening track, fall in love again, talks about the, like, fear of ever putting myself in that vulnerable space again. And in I wrote it. One of the first people that I was dating. A little bit after our divorce, I was just like, I. I don't like this feeling, like I don't want to be open to that kind of hurt again. And I. And I still haven't truly let myself open up to letting anyone in because I'm so afraid. And so that's why the chorus just says, I am never going to fall in love again and just repeats that. But. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about how that song is kind of. You said it's like a roll the windows down banger, so it's got this energy to it. [00:13:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Even as it's exploring this space of uncertainty. [00:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And we're gonna get back to that song, too, here in just a little bit. [00:13:24] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I don't mean it. I want to fall in love again. I do. Sure. But we. [00:13:28] Speaker B: We talked on our last episode when you were with us, about decentering romance. [00:13:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:34] Speaker B: And this feels kind of consistent with that, if you want to call it a theme or moment of where you are right now in the thought of relationships. And that really resonated with me even as I was going back and editing it. I think I even messaged Cynthia as I was talking about it. I was like, yeah, that makes even more sense when I'm listening to it than when I was. [00:14:00] Speaker A: And we've been. We talked a couple weeks ago, Laura Beth and I, as we were looking back at the episode about that topic of de centering romantic relationships. And I had. I think right after we had had that conversation, I came across this amazing article, and I really want to put it in the show notes, because it's all about women who prioritize their friendships with other women. [00:14:26] Speaker C: Actually just a gag. [00:14:31] Speaker A: And I didn't even know this, like, 50, 60, 70 years ago. There were ways that was just the norm and questioning why. Why we changed. [00:14:41] Speaker C: Oh. Oh, no. Yeah. We lost all that. Oh, no. Yeah. [00:14:48] Speaker B: You completely froze. [00:14:50] Speaker C: I think you were telling us about a conversation you and LB had. Yeah. [00:14:56] Speaker A: Okay. I could pick up there. A couple weeks ago, Laura Beth and I were together, and we were reminiscing on this conversation we had with you about decentering romance and decentering our romantic relationships and prioritizing our female friendships. And about that same time, I came across this amazing article in the Atlantic, and it was all about women historically, who have always prioritized the female friendships in their lives and how it's become sort of not the norm today. But why not, I think, is what it was asking because sometimes those are the relationships that are going to be there and they're going to endure. And there's a lot of potential and joy and security in those. In those relationships that we build on a different foundation other than just attraction. [00:15:55] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. I. I think it is by far the thing I am most grateful for since transitioning, and I may have said that before, is just access to this type of friendship that I just never had before. And I would just. I would never trade it for. For anything I had. Go ahead, Laura. [00:16:23] Speaker B: No, I was just going to say. And it's. It's. It's. From my experience. I'm not putting words in your mouth. From my experience, it's difficult to understand what is beautiful, genuine friendship, and what is potentially romantic. And so why Russian? Why push it and just learn to enjoy the beauty of what things are? And I, you know, I. I think I have tried to push it and. Because it's confusing. Yeah, beautifully confusing, but still confusing. [00:16:56] Speaker C: And so it is incredibly confusing to know when is. When is this just, like a deep and abiding intimate friendship? And when is it more? And if it is more, what does that even mean? If it's not. If we're not explicitly talking about, like, something physical or sexual? And I never want to push. I never want to risk making anyone uncomfortable if I, like, misread a signal. And so I'm just very cautious and, you know, maybe miss out on some things. [00:17:27] Speaker B: But I would rather we're discovering so many, so many more things than we're missing out on. I firmly, firmly believe that. [00:17:35] Speaker A: Well, Rachel discovered misogyny. [00:17:38] Speaker C: I mean, come on. [00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, think of all the years we missed out on that. [00:17:44] Speaker C: So true. Yeah. Well, we'll see how long I continue to enjoy that, but, yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah, get back to us in a year or two. Yeah. [00:17:52] Speaker B: That'll be your third visit. Great. And so let's kind of shift gears. And so this. This chapter also includes your new home there in San Diego and the community that you're building there. Yeah. Tell us a little bit more. [00:18:15] Speaker C: Yeah, you know, I feel like I'm stuck in San Diego because of how beautiful this community is and the community between the musicians that I Never experienced in 6 years living in Nashville, you know, where the musician density was so high, you think that there'd be a lot of opportunity. [00:18:39] Speaker B: High density leads to high competition, too. [00:18:42] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I think so. [00:18:43] Speaker B: It's a different environment for music. Yeah. [00:18:46] Speaker C: We have kind of stumbled into this family of artists and bands and players that just. We're all playing shows with each other. We're all playing in each other's bands and for each other. I'm producing half of them. And we're starting to see not only bands playing together, but the same fans coming out. And I have seen this special progression of. There were these, like, two young women that came to. Can we. Can we pause? [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:19:28] Speaker C: Oh, wait, maybe. [00:19:29] Speaker A: Hold on. That is me. [00:19:31] Speaker C: I actually have a question that I want to not be on the recording. Can we. You can record me, but just, like. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll let it out. [00:19:39] Speaker C: The. The, like, women that I want to describe are trans. But, like, I don't. I don't know if that's, like, okay to, like, point out that they're trans. Like, part of what is special about it is that, like, I think they connect to me because I'm trans, but, like, I don't want to like other them in that way. [00:19:57] Speaker B: If it is part of. Here's my take as a trans woman. If it is part of what makes that connection special. And if they are out publicly as. [00:20:09] Speaker C: Trans, I just don't know them well enough to know. Okay, like, we haven't had. Like, you're trans, I'm trans. Like, we haven't had that. But they're coming to all our shows, and I know that's obviously a big component. Okay. [00:20:25] Speaker B: I. I would just then approach it with this notion of we are creating community that is providing unique connection opportunities that I never experienced before. [00:20:36] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. [00:20:38] Speaker A: That's safe. [00:20:39] Speaker C: Sure. [00:20:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:20:41] Speaker C: But, yeah, so I was playing this library show for Pride, and. And there were these two women there, and, like, we kind of made eye contact, and, like, I wanted to talk to them. They, like, came and, like, you know, like, really listened to the set. And then I think they, like, jetted off. Right. After a while, I was packing up, and then a couple weeks later, I was playing, like, the San Diego Pride Festival and ran into them, and they came and, like, heard my set, and there was, like, one more friend with them. And then a couple weeks later, we had an event that we called Gay Panic at the Disco, and it was just like, our own Pride celebration. And there they were again. And this time there was four of them. Yeah. And then they came to our album release show, which was supposed to be my album release show, but I didn't finish the album in time. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah, things happen. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:40] Speaker C: But what I'm seeing is not like, oh, my friend's band is playing. I need to go. And not like, oh, I'm a fan of this band. I Love them so much that I have to like go like fangirl over them. But like, oh, this is where all of the people I want to be with are going to be on your community. [00:21:59] Speaker A: Your community is gathering there. [00:22:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:02] Speaker A: Amazing. [00:22:03] Speaker C: And it's, it's like de centering the performance aspect. Like, I do hope they like enjoy the music and I think they really do, but I'm seeing a consistent presence and we're like kind of organizing all of these artists under this like somewhat pretend music management company that it's at least managed by a fictitious person. And we're like just throwing all of these shows together and seeing people like come out and celebrate being together and celebrating like celebrating that we're women. Like how many? Like it is a like very like women centered, queer, like gender affirming crowd of people. And I just love being a part of like creating that space that people can come and like feel safe and feel celebrated. [00:22:55] Speaker A: I think that's amazing. And let me ask you musically if I could just slide in here with the music question. I'm wondering, do you find that your sound is evolving as you are playing together and, and, and listening to each other? Is there anything different that's happening musically? [00:23:13] Speaker C: I mean, there's definitely a lot that I want to try as a result of hearing these other artists. There's a really fun kind of like girl punk band. Like it has kind of like a girl riot feel to it. They're just like super. They're a band called the Dimes. They're super playful, they, they're super chaotic and noisy and just like unbelievably like free and unburdened by any like societal expectations of like what women are supposed to be doing on stage. And I'm just like so excited to be unburdened when I write music and just try to like channel some of their chaos. We had another show where one of our artists, Saint Misty, that I produced her record, she made a cake, like a, like a five foot tall cake that she like was inside of and popped out of like throwing glitter and was wearing like a marching band uniform that she sewed herself. And I was just like, yes, I want to try all of this. You know. [00:24:22] Speaker B: One thing I'm hearing is. [00:24:25] Speaker C: Just this. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Authenticity breeds authenticity. When we show up authentically, we encourage authentic engagement. And music at its core can open that channel, can open up those conversations, can open up those emotions. But music is also performance and I think a lot of our experience in the the music world is performative and it sets an expectation. There is a way we're supposed to show up. There's a way. You know, we showed up 10 years ago and we need to keep showing up that way or people aren't going to like us anymore or listen to our stuff anymore. And there's just something about music in the context of community, in the context of two women showing up at a show and saying, I want my friends to. To hear and see and experience what I just heard and saw and experienced. And I think it's incredibly beautiful. So, so, so very excited for you. And really kind of now want to come to San Diego and just. [00:25:33] Speaker A: That's exactly what I'm thinking. [00:25:37] Speaker C: If not sooner, put Gay Panic at the Disco on your calendar for next year. It was incredible. [00:25:43] Speaker A: Okay, I'll send you. I'll send you a place to stay there too. The more thinking about it. [00:25:48] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you both do, obviously. You can stay in my tiny one bed apartment. [00:25:52] Speaker B: There we go. [00:25:53] Speaker A: Oh, now there, there is a good time. [00:25:57] Speaker C: Neither of you are allergic to cats, are you? [00:25:59] Speaker D: No. [00:26:00] Speaker C: Okay. [00:26:00] Speaker A: That's his. That Laura Beth keeps. [00:26:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Peaches. Peaches. A little bit in the dog house at the moment, but. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Oh, no, she's perfect. [00:26:14] Speaker B: So. All right. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I think Rachel has a show to get to now. Actually. [00:26:22] Speaker B: Rachel has a show of a friend to go. [00:26:24] Speaker C: I do. Yeah. Another. Another one of the artists on our queer women's imaginary music management company. Yeah, it's called Raspberry Management. [00:26:37] Speaker B: Raspberry Management. Okay. [00:26:39] Speaker C: Yeah, we. We really liked the idea of organizing to lend legitimacy to one another. And we have our manager, Natalie, Natalie Bancroft, who founded the company. She advocates for all of us. And together we all advocate for each other through Natalie. And, you know, we had a really great show at one of the, like, local, like, kind of smaller venues that we all play at. We sold 150 tickets, which is like pretty great for a local show on a Monday night, for sure. [00:27:16] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:27:17] Speaker C: And so as a result, now Natalie can email another venue and say, hey, Raspberry Management put together a show and we sold 150 tickets on a Monday. We want to bring our artists to your venue. And so it may be different on a Friday. Yeah, which we did. We managed to have our show on a Saturday, which was a big deal. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:40] Speaker C: Um, and now we have this really great relationship with the bar. And it's not like I, you know, am the, like, point of direct contact with them, but because we are now a collective, I may not even be on the bill, but I can use the weight of raspberry management to then advocate for the other artists. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Natalie can. [00:28:03] Speaker C: Natalie can. Exactly. [00:28:04] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:05] Speaker A: I love it. [00:28:06] Speaker C: Uh, that's fantastic. Laura Beth. I'll tell you, maybe this. I don't know if this should be on for the listeners. [00:28:12] Speaker B: We can make that choice in a minute. [00:28:15] Speaker C: I. So when I was in middle school, my best friend randomly one day just started calling me Nathaniel Banks. Because middle school boys are weird. Yeah. And apparently that was like, a used car salesman that had, like, sold his family a van. Once again, middle school boy energy. But that carried for years. He still called me Nathaniel. And so every so often when I needed, like, a fake name, I would use Nathaniel Banks. And so when I started thinking about this, I was like, oh, well, I don't think it's Nathaniel anymore. And so that's where. That's how Natalie Bancroft was born. [00:28:54] Speaker D: Ah, yes. [00:28:56] Speaker B: That's. [00:28:57] Speaker C: Yes. [00:28:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. One point for the junior high boys. [00:29:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:02] Speaker A: Yep. Redeem that experience. [00:29:06] Speaker B: That's fantastic. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Well, you've got a show to get to. [00:29:10] Speaker B: You got a show to get to. Really? [00:29:11] Speaker A: You rent your show. We'll play your music here while you go to your show there. And we'll have you covered on all bases. [00:29:18] Speaker B: Two questions. Is there anything that we didn't get to talk about in this short time that. [00:29:23] Speaker C: No, I think we. I think we hit a lot of really fun things. Yeah. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Good. Because I took notes before we started. Okay, good. [00:29:31] Speaker C: Listen. Listen to the record. Y' all have a link to it. I want to know what you think. [00:29:34] Speaker A: Yes, we'll listen. [00:29:36] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going to listen to the record and we are going to play us out with the track of never fall in love again. [00:29:43] Speaker C: Amazing. Thank you for having me on. It's good to see you. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Thanks for coming back. Yep. We will do this again in another three months, hopefully. [00:29:50] Speaker C: Amazing. And come to San Diego. Yeah. [00:29:53] Speaker B: It feels like a good habit to get into. [00:30:12] Speaker D: In my blood, sweet serotonin blood copper while you wrapped around you're electric to the touch? Want to lay me down. [00:30:35] Speaker C: And I. [00:30:36] Speaker D: Don'T want to be found. Slow down, the world's gone dry But I'm still, I don't hold out you can hold my dead inside. I am never gonna fall in love again. I am never gonna fall in love again. Keep on loving mad I'm afraid I gave out all the love that I had and it didn't last. [00:31:21] Speaker C: Praise the lord. [00:31:24] Speaker D: Memory back and forth Cuz I'm not sure but I think that I'm going down again. Lay me down, slow down the world's gone dry But I'm still high? Don't fall down, you can't for mine I'm dead inside? I am never going to fall in love again why? Am never going to fall in love again? [00:32:30] Speaker C: And the ice begins to break Slow. [00:32:34] Speaker D: Down, the well's gon dry? But I'm still high? Don't hold out, you never mind I'm dead inside? I am never going to fall in love again? I am never gonna fall in love again? I am never gonna fall in love? I am never gonna fall.

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